Posted by: gela_jvania | May 13, 2010

dialogi

03.06.2009 weli. 23 saaTi da 43 wuTi

   Dialogi mRvdel daviT konjariasTan, romelic klaselebSi onlain reJimSi Sedga:

Gela: saRamo mSvidobis daviT. romel taZarSi gadagiyvanes?

daviTi: ki. vazisubanSi. wminda cxra Zma kolaelTa taZarSi.

gela: ~qarTvelno erTad RvTisaken`!!! saqarTveloSi mcxovreb eTnikur umciresobebs vin aukrZala RmerTis Semecnebis gza? Es slogani Sen, rom gidevs trafaretad klaselebSi, Garkveul wilad religiuri nacizmis elementebs Seicavs…  dafiqrebul xar amis Taobaze?

Gela: wirvis naxSirebi xo mar gWirdeba?

daviTi: gela! ramdenad SeiZleba wirvis naxSirebis SeZena?

Gela: 15 TeTrad mimaqvs maRaziebsa da taZrebSi…

daviTi: xo gela. Magari kargi fasia, magram swrafad aalebadi naxSiri mirCevnia.

Gela: aalebadi naxSiris gakeTebas uaxloes dReebSi daviwyeb… gaixare!

daviTi: me magaTi sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs. RmerTma yvelani kargad mimyofos. Ubralod Cemi gvaris xalxs, rom mivmarTo xom SemiZlia? Es xom Cemi uflebaa? ratom mzRudav moyvaso?

Gela: rodesac qristes saxeliT adamianebis damowafeba xdeba, maSin aseTi nacisturi mimarTvebi pirad uflebebze maRla unda idges. Qadageba da mowodeba uSualod pirovnebisadmi unda iyos mimarTuli da naklebad ama Tu im naciisadmi. ieso xom individebis RmerTia da ara naciebis?…

daviTi: me qarTvelebSi yvela marTlmadidebel qristians vgulisxmob.

Gela: ~WeSmariteba nacionalizmze maRla dgas~. eTanxmebi am cnobil gamonaTqvams?

daviTi: gela! Sen naxSirebis gayidva risTvis ginda?

Gela: damatebiTi Semosavlis wyaroa…

daviTi: xo, anu Seni jvaria ifiqro, Sens col-Svilze. Mec, pirvel rigSi vfiqrob Cems qarTvelebze anu am qveynis umetes moqalaqeze. radganac RvTismsaxureba taZarSi qarTul enaze aResruleba da am enaze saubrobs RvTivkurTxeuli qarTveli eri.

Gela: SegviZlia am Temaze vimsjeloT… saintereso daskvnebs gamovitanT am msjelobebidan…

Privatizebuli qristianoba cota naklebad msmenia. Aseve kerZo mesakuTruli damokidebulebis gadatana RmerTis Semecnebis da adamianebis gulebamde mitanis procesSi ara marTebulad mimaCnia da ufro primitivizmamde dadis…

daviTi: ki batono, Magram avtoriteti da amomavali wyaro ra da vin iqneba? CemTvis wminda mamebi arian avtoritetebi.

Gela: ai ratom aris dialogi da msjeloba mniSvnelovani da kargi. azrTa gacvla gamocvla bevr sargebels moutans adamianebs da Semecnebisa da ganaTlebis sfero farTovdeba…

daviTi: eg Sen moyvaso! ufalTan roca wardgebi Tu gamogadgeba imaze ifiqre, Torem wminda mamebis dasi aris goneba qristes eklesiisa. Ase, rom Seni Tanamedrove deklaraciebi da Cemi wminda mamebis erToblioba ar gamova. Mainc vinaa Seni avtoritetis wyaro? SenTvis beqa mindiaSvili da Zmani misni arian avtoritetebi? saxareba moyvaso, suli wmindis karnaxiT da xelmZRvanelobiT aris dawerili da aseve suli wmindam wminda mamebis bageebiT da kalmiT gangvimarta mis mierve nakarnaxevi WeSmariteba. Ase, rom wminda mamebi da saxareba erTi suli wmindis Semoqmedebaa

gela: ra gemarTeba daviT? Dialogma nuTu wonasworoba dagakargvina? ra SuaSia aq beqa da deklaraciebi? iqneb dialogs Tavs arideb Tu gnebavs msjelobas an kamaTs da TamaSidan gasvlis gamo Tavdasxmas amjobineb da amiT saubris gagrZelebis reJimidan vardebi? meCveneba, rom garbixar! Ar minda davijero mRvdlis aseTi pozicia! Avtoritetzec mqonda saubari da mivuTiTebdi kidevac… nuTu ver amoikiTxe? Geslis amonTxevasaviT gamogdis… ra beqa ris beqa… SenTan kamaTisas, raSi mWirdeba beqas personis moxmoba? ras ambob pativcemulo mama daviT? Mere da vin giTxra, rom es mase ar aris?

daviTi: gela! Seni avtoriteti saxareba da wminda mamebi ki ara Seni ampartavani da Tavdajerebuli gonebaa, romlis siswore migaCnia Sen uzenaesad. Torem samSoblos siyvaruls pavle mociqulis sityvebidanac ki gaixsenebdi. Tu gnebavs vaxtang gorgaslis magaliTic gamodgeboda.

gela: daviT! Es dialogi ki ara lanZRva gineba da Seuracxyofaa. Es Tavis aridebisa da daZvrenisken gadadgmuli nabijia. vikamaToT da vimsjeloT! Me vwerdi: ~WeSmariteba samSobloze maRla dgas~. Am cnobil debulebas Tu ar eTanxmebi, maSin Sen Sens Tavs Qristes gareT ayeneb da Arc SeiZleba mRvdlad iwodebode…

daviTi: iqneb pavle mociqulic ar SeiZleba movixmoT? Sen Cemi gabrazebis mizezi ici saidanac modis! Beqa mindiaSvilma da misma mowafeebma gaswavles Sen Tavxedoba da ampartavneba. cxvirmouxocavebma qveynisaTvis sazianod enis trialis meti araferi ician. maT iotis marcvlisodenac ki ar gaukeTebiaT kargi… Sen Zalian kargad ici, rom es sityvebi: ~qarTvelno erTad RvTisaken~ patriarqis naTqvamia da misi bageebidan mxolod WeSmariteba moedineba… romel faSizmzea aq saubari? saubaria yvela marTlmadidebelze vinc ismens qarTulad locvas anu am qveynis marTlmadideblebzea saubari.

Gela: daviT, ar gekadreba aseTi toniT saubari. visi naTqvamic ar unda iyos. ~WeSmariteba samSobloze maRla dgas~. Dabadebis konkretuli adgili arafers ar niSnavs WeSmaritebasTan anu RmerTTan SedarebiT. Ra didi gageba amas undoda? ra gemarTeba mRvdelo daviT? ram gagiSeSaT goneba? Beqa cxvirmouxocavia da sxvebi cxvirmoxocilebi? Kargi ra patiosano mamav? Ubralod sakuTari uvicobisa da gaunaTleblobis demonstrirebas akeTebs. Zalian cud rames ukeTeb sakuTar personas… Zalian dapataravdi Cems TvalSi, rogorc mRvdeli…

daviTi: beqas da Sen patriarqis an Cemnairi mRvdlis gankiTxva profesiad geqcaT. Beqas profesia ki uaRmatebulesad aris, radgan mag ubedurma raime patriarqze, rom ar Tqvas, mere bobola biZiebi fuls ar miscemen an ukeTes SemTxvevaSi masze ukeTess ipovian da beqas pensiaze gauSveben. rac Seexeba Cems Tavs. Sens TvalSi, me ra da rogori var arc ki madardebs gela batono. Ukanaskneli kaci viyo SenTvis da icode CemTvisac aranaklebi iqnebi radgan visTvisac patriarqis lanZRva profesiaa da amiT irCens Tavs is da misi samegobro CemTvis sulieri mtrebi arian. Da me icode, mzad var Tavi mivakla patriarqs da Cems ers zvarakad Sevewiro.

Gela: dagemSvidobebi daviT. Kargi dialogi ar gamogvivida, Magram ara uSavs. gavigeT vin rogor da ranairad azrovnebs. Es ki win gadadgmuli nabijia. dReidan gicnob. Adre gamarjobiT da RimiliT gicnobdi… warmatebebs gisurveb cxovrebaSi. Megobrul rCevas mogcem Tu miiReb. Teologiuri literatura unda ikiTxo bevri. Torem Seni aseTi nacisturi ideebis qadagebiT xalxs mrevls kargs arafers moutan… aba magrad da mtkiced ideqi… Tavis msxverplad mitana dRevandel epoqaSi naklebad aris saWiro… ganaTlebis miReba da gaRrmaveba da yoveldRiuri wvrTna Teologiasa da mecnierebisa yovelTvis prioritetulia… gamgebi gaigebs… maRali da WeSmariti Rirebulebebis gavrceleba ufro ukeTesia vidre patriarqs an dabadebis adgils uazrod zvarakad Seewiro… aba Sen ici da Senma gmirobam…

daviTi: xo gela kargad gamicani. Gilocav. Naxe biWo ramxela progresia, aba kargad brZandebodeT. Sen TeTro mtredo! ganaTlebis miReba beqas uTxari da Senc imecadine. rac Seexeba Sewirvas. rusebi Tu movidnen taSi daukari da ikiTxeT da wereT. ~Eklesias ki bWeni jojoxeTisani ver moerevian~. Miuxedavad momavali agresiisa da Tavdasxmebisa. xalxi ki karg adgils migiCenT sabolood. iq ki ra pasuxs gascemT macxovars, amaze ki namdvilad gmarTebT dafiqreba, amas girCevT. Macxovris winaSe iyavi marTali gela batono, es yvelafers jobia. Sendobas viTxov. RmerTs eyvarebode.

Gela: gaixare daviT. dro gamoaCens sinaTlisa da sibnelis Sedegebs…


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